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We're talking six times the volatility of the S&P 500 or five times the volatility of gold.feedback
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Oct 17 2017
The latest person who has talked about Bitcoin is Charles Hayter: “Investors are seeing the lessons of history in the up-and-coming forks and hoping for an extra dividend.”. You’ll find on this page all the other quotes of Charles Hayter and all the other people that have spoken about Bitcoin. You can select these people and their quotes by date, by name, and you can easily have access to the articles from which they originated.
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Larry Fink - BlackRock

Bitcoin just shows you how much demand for money laundering there is in the world. It's an index of money laundering. That's all it is.feedback

Cathie Wood - Ark

[Cryptocurrency] markets are huge. We believe that digital services are as integral, or maybe more integral to our lives, than commodities that are traded on exchanges right now. It's interesting that you've got corn and oil and copper trading on the exchange but you don't have computing power, and bandwidth, and storage necessarily. Well, we think that's going to happen because of blockchain technology and all of the cryptos that are coming along.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

It's not a real thing, eventually it will be closed. It's worse than tulip bulbs, . It won't end well. Someone is going to get killed.feedback

Lev Loginov

It will have to be a specialist blockchain for property. It will have to be able to demonstrate ownership.feedback

Lev Loginov

In 10 years from now cryptocurrencies will take over. It will be in wide use just like debit cards and credit cards.feedback

Brian Kelly

The Coinbase instant buy program is yet another step toward mainstream acceptance of Bitcoin. This will make Bitcoin easier to use as a transactional currency and could have the effect of increasing liquidity. The added transaction volume should also support the price.feedback

Lisa D. Ellis

Blockchain is getting a tremendous amount of momentum independent of bitcoin in core banking. I think it's real. I do.feedback

Iqbal Gandham - eToro

Bitcoin was designed to operate outside of the influence of governments and central banks, and is doing exactly that. So to us, this bounce back in price is no surprise.feedback

Nik Kirk

We think cryptocurrencies are suitable tools for diversifying portfolios. And lots of trading firms are waking up to this fact.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

I wouldn't put this high on the category of important things in the world. But I'm not going to talk about bitcoin anymore. Absolutely not [bitcoin is not a fraud]. It cannot be a fraud. What countries can constrain today is how it [bitcoin] is effectively traded but it cannot be controlled. It is a fundamentally distributed system that exists peer to peer. And so to the extent that you can basically eliminate the will and the actions of every single person in the world, you can eliminate it. But in the absence of that, the genie is fundamentally out of the bottle.feedback

Shoshi Bacon

It's been a fascinating and exciting ride. The potential for the future of blockchain [technology] is just amazing. It's a whole new frontier of opportunity.feedback

Bart Stephens

The Blockchain and cryptocurrencies have elicited an emotional response from financial incumbents. The technology is controversial and misunderstood, but that doesn't make it any less real. I would encourage Jamie Dimon and others to do some homework first. It is not a fraud. It is not a Ponzi scheme. It's a robust technology that is going to impact multiple industries. Don't discount it.feedback

Bart Stephens

While Jamie Dimon was making those comments, I was an invited speaker at JP Morgan's offices in San Francisco to give a talk with other fund managers and clients of JP Morgan who are really curious about cryptocurrencies and the underlying Blockchain technology. So there's a lot of hypocrisy going on with Jamie Dimon.feedback

Aurélien Menant

Speculators are bullish on bitcoin's value with the anticipation of China's reintegration with global crypto markets.feedback

Charles Hayter

Investors are seeing the lessons of history in the up-and-coming forks and hoping for an extra dividend.feedback

Daniel Murray - EFG Asset Management

For most currencies there are several accepted methodologies for estimating relative value, normally based on macroeconomic fundamentals. For bitcoin no such fundamentals exist.feedback

Bart Stephens

For too long, Silicon Valley has ignored the tsunami. Many of my friends who are at generalist VC firms dismiss this stuff out of hand because they're not spending the time to do the homework.feedback

Bart Stephens

[F]or every negative Jamie Dimon, I could point you to two positive Wall Street CEOs like Lloyd Blankfein at Goldman Sachs and Abigail Johnson at Fidelity, who are making constructive comments on both cryptocurrency and the blockchain.feedback

Bart Stephens

Every new technology that is confusing, fast-moving and disruptive is going to be controversial. You'll see people have emotional reactions. That's part of why Blockchain Capital exists. We know this industry requires specialization.feedback

Vladimir Putin

The usage of crypto-currencies carries serious risks. I know the central bank's position on that. Crypto-currencies are issued by an unlimited number of anonymous bodies. Thus the buyers of crypto-currencies could be involved in unlawful activities.feedback

Brad Garlinghouse - Ripple

The global payments industry really has been ruled by an oligopoly, led by players like JPMorgan and Citi. It's certainly not that surprising to see Jamie Dimon's comments recently on bitcoin given that they (JPMorgan) control that oligopoly.feedback

Paul Brodsky

We may have identified something that is the next generation that will take market share from Amazon, Facebook and Google. We'll be becoming more passive on how we allocate wealth into the markets at a time when we can maybe identify a next generation of wealth creators.feedback

Vlad Tenev - Robinhood

I wouldn't say that we're anticipating a massive shift from stocks to cryptocurrencies. We don't see the equities market going away anytime soon.feedback

Aurélien Menant

The forthcoming bitcoin fork in November will result in greater volatility and risk for this new asset class.feedback

Sergei Shvetsov

We cannot stand apart. We cannot give direct and easy access to such dubious instruments for retail investors. We think that for our citizens, for businesses the usage of such cryptocurrencies as an investment object carries unreasonably high risks.feedback

Aurélien Menant

Bitcoin's rally is continuing off the back of a more certain regulatory environment across the world, most notably in Japan. This has encouraged more institutional funds to enter the market and we are finally seeing the effect of this additional liquidity.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

If we had a trader who traded bitcoin, I'd fire them in a second. It's against our rules.feedback

Robert Sluymer - RBC Capital Markets

It gives us a sense that something's happening in the cryptocurrency move, that you don't have the same speculative move as you had in the first quarter, second quarter.feedback

Jordan Fish

We'd rather self-fund until we prove we have a product people like and use regularly.feedback

Jordan Fish

Finding clarity around that stops us from making something cool. Because you don't want to accidentally get put in prison.feedback

Jordan Fish

It's the same thing I recommend to my dad. It will automate [the buying decision] for people who want to get into bitcoin but never know when to buy.feedback

Dan Morehead - Bitstamp

Bitcoin's essentially going to revolutionize currency, or money. If it does work, the upside is so high, it's a rational, expected thing to have in your portfolio.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The currency isn't going to work. You can't have a business where people can invent a currency out of thin air and think that people who are buying it are really smart. It is worse than tulips bulbs.feedback

Lloyd Blankfein

Still thinking about #Bitcoin. No conclusion - not endorsing/rejecting. Know that folks also were skeptical when paper money displaced gold.feedback

Nicholas Colas - ConvergeX

It's obviously going to be a lot of capital markets discussion. We're also going to be touching very heavily on the data revolution and innovation disruption generally. Retail talks about Amazon, auto talks but Tesla. But everybody views innovation in their very narrow vertical. There's a lot of work to be done to understand how this broad-based technological disruption coming out of Silicon Valley really affects the entire economy, the capitalist ecosystem. I don't think there's anybody putting those dots together in a creative way.feedback

Bobby Lee - BTC China

There is nothing [the Chinese government] can do. That is the beauty of [bitcoin].feedback

Martin Chorzempa

[Chinese consumers] have had such limited channels for so long, and [bitcoin] was finally one that was not tightly controlled by the government.feedback

Bobby Lee - BTC China

They'll want to control it, but bitcoin was not meant to be controlled. You can make all the rules you want, and the question is, can they be enforced? With guns you can say, let's make guns illegal. But with bitcoin, there's nothing physical. It's information, and there's plausible deniability.feedback

Martin Chorzempa

The clampdown thus fits into a broader set of efforts to lessen financial market risks perceived by Chinese policymakers.feedback

Priscilla Moriuchi - Recorded Future

We weren't able to determine the volumes, like how many bitcoin they can generate per certain time period. We could just see activity.feedback

Jeff Paik

There's no logic to it. As long as there is an open market, and a currency to be traded, people will flock into it. It doesn't matter which coin.feedback

Tony Lyu - Korbit

Word just spreads really fast in Korea. Once people are invested, they want everyone else to join the party. There's been this huge, almost a community movement around this.feedback

Charles Hayter

Japan and the U.S. have proven China is unnecessary for bitcoin to thrive. As various nation states pin their colours to the mast, a whole panoply of differing attitudes will be seen. This industry is mobile and it will come to roost in the most favourable jurisdictions.feedback

Xiaoyu Huang

A deceptive market is not a healthy market. And, in fact, it was the fake volumes that made the government mistakenly believe that the Chinese market accounted for so much of the global trading volume, and caused the government to supervise bitcoin in China so forcefully.feedback

Robert Shiller

The best example [of a bubble] right now is bitcoin.feedback

Haruhiko Kuroda - Bank of Japan

May have the potential of significantly changing the structure of financial services.feedback

Zhou Xiaochuan

Digital currency and cash will co-exist for a long time.feedback

Dave McKay - Royal Bank of Canada

Loyalty is something where if there is an error or a problem we could recreate loyalty systems without impact on people's real money.feedback

Dave McKay - Royal Bank of Canada

If you have a mass consumer franchise with a strong brand and lots of data about that consumer I think the barriers to banking are coming down to the point where I expect there to be competitors.feedback

Dave McKay - Royal Bank of Canada

Has Bitcoin misrepresented what it is? No. What it's solving is a way to avoid detection in moving money in our society and transferring value from one person to another. I think where Jamie is probably coming from is it's helping evade the supervision of moving money and from that perspective it needs to be monitored.feedback

Marshall Swatt - Coinsetter

The fact that bitcoin is still being traded is an indication that China isn't looking to eliminate them, but reposition things in a way to have better control over them.feedback

Ray Dalio

Bitcoin is a bubble. It's not an effective storehold of wealth because it has volatility to it, unlike gold. Bitcoin is a highly speculative market.feedback

Ray Dalio

Bitcoin is a highly speculative market. Bitcoin is a bubble.feedback

Mario Draghi - European Central Bank

It would actually not be in our powers to prohibit and regulate them. We have to ask what effects cryptocurrencies have on the economy.feedback

Jim Cramer

The most valuable currency in this business isn't dollars. It's not gold. It's not even bitcoin. It's the benefit of the doubt. When the market realizes that a CEO deserves it, their stock tends to catch fire. If there's one thing we can bank on, it's that he's not going to be tripped up by some storms, even really bad ones.feedback

Ari Paul

The criticism, the concerns, the fears have been present throughout almost the entire market's history. When everyone thinks bitcoin is a safe and attractive investment, it won't be a good investment.feedback

Chamath Palihapitiya

As far as I'm concerned, the genie is out of the bottle. Now the real question is how can we productively use it to solve some of society's issues around the financial services infrastructure.feedback

Chamath Palihapitiya

Nobody can stop it because nobody can control it. The idea that the government can put curbs on this is actually pretty specious.feedback

Aaron Hanson

I believe there is a strong chance that it may someday revolutionize significant parts of our financial infrastructure.feedback

Larry Cummings

The reason why the Chinese government wants to shut down the exchanges is because they want to regulate it. They will be coming back online again. It's a lot to do with economic policy and controlling bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies, which are really out of control.feedback

Lynn Dunston

Just know part of the demand is being driven by criminals.feedback

Lynn Dunston

It's a real concern when you hear about anyone putting all of their money into highly speculative investments.feedback

David Whalen - Bitcoin

If you're looking at this like a stock market, you're missing the point. It's going to change the world.feedback

Lynn Dunston

My general rule is, if you can't understand it, don't invest in it.feedback

Jens Nordvig

Cryptocurrency trading volume is now more than of $3 billion per day on average, and will likely soon surpass that of the world's most liquid stock: Apple ($4 billion per day). We do not believe that one can predict with confidence at this point that any given cryptocurrency will continue to thrive and gain status as an alternative to traditional currencies in the long term. But we look forward to using the information from an increasingly active cryptocurrency market in our tracking of global capital flows, when appropriate.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

With central banks, (the money) says legal tender: you have to take this as payment. It's very cheap to do, it's very easy to move back and forth. JPMorgan moves $6 trillion around the world every day very efficiently, very quietly, very effectively and very cost efficient. Creating money out of thin air without government backing is very different from money with government backing.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Blockchain is a technology that can be used for multiple things, including cryptocurrency. It could be used for digital dollars, and there are digital dollars already; a lot of the dollars held in our bank are digital.feedback

Cedric Jeanson

The important thing is to add market makers on these exchanges and have the appropriate rules, (such as) anti-money laundering and Know Your Customer, around those exchanges.feedback

Cedric Jeanson

The high volatility I think is due to the low liquidity we have on exchanges today.feedback

Cedric Jeanson

We are quoting at the moment something like half a billion dollars of bitcoin or digital currency every month. We became, I think, the biggest market maker on those selected exchanges.feedback

Todd Rosenbluth

From a mutual fund perspective, liquidity is paramount.feedback

Rainer Michael Preiss

Of course, if you run a very large U.S. bank, most probably you are afraid of blockchain and bitcoin. The concerns are about the fractional reserve banking system, and the balance sheet of the Federal Reserve at $4.5 trillion, where the Fed officially refuses an audit. On the other hand, on the bitcoin blockchain, you have an audit everyday because it's open-sourced.feedback

James Stent

I see the crackdown on bitcoin as part of this larger multi-agency program to reduce financial sector risk, which will unfold over months and probably years. I do not see risk reduction as something temporary, nor do I see the bitcoin crackdown as temporary.feedback

Taavet Hinrikus - TransferWise

Up until now, we really haven't seen how bitcoin or ethereum gets used by real people to buy goods, to pay for services.feedback

Bill Bishop

If it's a real policy it's probably good for bitcoin because it removes the Chinese risk factor, same like the fork.feedback

Ray Dalio

For over twenty-six years now, that new type of plane [Pure Alpha] has flown exactly as we anticipated, making money in twenty-three of these years (having only modest losses in the other three) and making more money in total for our clients than any other hedge fund ever.feedback

Ray Dalio

It's very much speculative. People are thinking, Can I sell it at a higher price,' so it's a bubble. With bitcoin, you can't make much transactions in it and you can't spend it very easily. It's not an effective store hold of wealth because it has volatility unlike gold. It's a shame, it could be a currency. It could work conceptually, but the amount of speculation that is going on and the lack of transactions [hurts it]. Bitcoin is a highly speculative market. Bitcoin is a bubble.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

If we have a trader that trades bitcoin, I would fire them in a second, for two reasons: It is against our rules and they are stupid, and both are dangerous.feedback

Charles Hayter

It's still unclear whether there is a full permanent outright ban in China. Earlier in the year the market was bullish whilst the Chinese exchanges were facing regulatory implementation and Japan picked up the slack. The market is moving on and realising the price drama was excessive and overdone.feedback

Aurélien Menant

The market is realizing that it doesn't really matter what happens in China anymore, the exchanges based there no longer dominate trading activity and more mature liquidity from institutional players in Japan, Korea and Europe is providing a boost to this next bull cycle. It's also important to remember that the crackdown in China was targeting the activities of the local exchanges for not complying with the Chinese financial regulatory environment and not a crackdown on bitcoin and blockchain technologies.feedback

Brian Marchiony - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

They are not JPMorgan orders. These are clients purchasing third-party products directly.feedback

John McAfee - McAfee

Surely there's some value in the work that we did to create the coin.feedback

Thomas Lee

We have some data. There's only about 300,000 holders of at least $5,000 of Bitcoin. That's like saying the iPhone was a bubble in 2007, four days into the sale because there were 500,000 iPhones sold.feedback

Marko Kolanovic

If the use of cryptocurrencies were to increase to an extent that they start competing with traditional 'country' currencies they would be quickly regulated or outlawed.feedback

Marko Kolanovic

It is believed that an unknown person (or persons) known as 'Satoshi Nakamoto', before disappearing, mined the first 1-2 million coins or about 10 percent of the coins that will ever exist. Mining becomes progressively more difficult, and eventually unprofitable. Perhaps more importantly, there is no organized power behind this currency to e.g. ensure its long term viability, secure trade, enforce its acceptability for goods and services, or provide investor fraud protection.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Wait until someone gets hurt. Wait until it's used for illicit purposes, which it's somewhat used for illicit purposes. They close it down. That's my point.feedback

David Coker

What is surprising however is that even as Mr Dimon openly criticises Bitcoin, JP Morgan is quietly advancing its own, proprietary crypto ledger, Quorum. Quorum is based on Ethereum, a blockchain project broadly similar to but somewhat different than Blockchain, which backs Bitcoin. So one can't help but wonder if Mr Dimon's comments regarding cryptocurrencies would apply to JP Morgan's own offerings, should they come to market?feedback

Fred Wilson

You have to have an open mind to be able to see the future. Bitcoin is a bit like flood water. It's hard to keep out of your society.feedback

Erik Voorhees - Shapeshift

Jamie Dimon has every interest in the world in disparaging Bitcoin and working with his friends in government to regulate and suffocate it.feedback

Michael Moro

It's entirely possible for bitcoin's price to be high because of the tremendous interest from South America, Sub-Saharan Africa and parts of Asia.feedback

Ari Paul

Cryptocurrency serves this function an order of magnitude better than the existing banking system. I suspect that Dimon recognizes this, and is trying to delay the inevitable replacement of one his bank's core services by a far more efficient upstart.feedback

Charles Hayter

Chinese volumes account for less than 10 percent of global volume - they are no big deal. Waiting for the axe to fall is worse than the actual event; leaked documents seem to be clearing up uncertainty. But also a bounce of this magnitude was on the cards after such steep losses.feedback

Jackson Palmer - Dogecoin

What's happening to crypto now is what happened to Dogecoin. I'm worried that this time, it's on a much grander scale. It was fun, nobody took it seriously. People threw it around like change because it wasn't worth anything.feedback

Jackson Palmer - Dogecoin

People are treating cryptocurrency now like penny stocks. It's become a securities market.feedback

Alex Gurevich - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

Jamie, you're a great boss and the GOAT [greatest of all-time] bank CEO. You're not a trader or tech entrepreneur. Please, STFU [shut the fuck up] about trading.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

The currency isn't going to work. You can't have a business where people can invent a currency out of thin air and think that people who are buying it are really smart. My daughter bought a bitcoin and it immediately went up, now she thinks she's a genius. It's just not a real thing. Eventually, it will be: 'the emperor has no clothes.feedback

Kevin Werbach

I'm a bull about the technology behind bitcoin, but I don't buy it because I don't have confidence that I can predict the price. It's clearly a speculative bubble. There is nothing that has happened that would justify the short-term run-up in the price. But that doesn't prove it's a bad investment. It may be we are seeing early signs of a long-term set of uses that will justify this price or a much higher price.feedback

Thomas Glucksmann

The overall share of Chinese exchanges has been diminishing steadily.feedback

Thomas Glucksmann

People will realize that China is out of the picture for the moment.feedback

Sheng Songcheng - People's Bank of China

Because it is traded anonymously and peer to peer, Bitcoin makes it easy for money laundering and tax evasion.feedback

Charles Hayter

The Chinese ban is causing a panic in the market as mixed messages and lack of clarity has turned sentiment negative. The closure of BTCChina is perhaps a portent of what the other Chinese exchanges face.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

It's just not a real thing, eventually it will be closed. I'm not saying 'go short bitcoin and sell $100,000 of bitcoin before it goes down. This is not advice of what to do. My daughter bought bitcoin, it went up and now she thinks she's a genius.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

It's worse than tulip bulbs. It won't end well. Someone is going to get killed. Currencies have legal support. It will blow up.feedback

John McAfee - McAfee

You called bitcoin a fraud. I'm a bitcoin miner. We create bitcoins. It costs over $1,000 per coin to create a bitcoin. What does it cost to create a U.S. dollar? Which one is the fraud? Because it costs whatever the paper costs, but it costs me and other miners over $1,000 per coin. It's called proof of work.feedback

James Butterfill

He joins a long line of market commentators that have been critical of bitcoin and it potentially being in a bubble, so his comments could have been the tipping point.feedback

Wang Wei

Now the mine has about 50 employees. I feel in the future it might bring hundreds or even thousands of jobs, like the big factories.feedback

Priscilla Moriuchi - Recorded Future

One week, when I retrieved the data for the week of May 17, I noticed there was unusual amount of bitcoin activity that I have not seen before ... from nothing to hundreds of data points a day, clearly bitcoin mining. And it was ongoing, through the end of my dataset.feedback

Priscilla Moriuchi - Recorded Future

It's possible they [North Korea] have been "mining" bitcoin for a while, but they stopped for a period of time. ... or maybe they are using infrastructure and computers in other places. We happen to have the view to this one snapshot for this one period of time. Bitcoin ['mining'] in itself is not criminal by any means; it's not a suspect activity. But the timing of that activity was an interesting correlation with the WannaCry [cyber]attack.feedback

Nchinda Nchinda

People are still free to choose who they want to interact with, so if enough people choose to reject bitcoin that are associated with North Korea, then North Korea wouldn't be able to do anything with bitcoin.feedback

Chamath Palihapitiya

We've been massively long since the beginning. The genie is fundamentally out of the bottle.feedback

Zennon Kapron

The only way you can really stop bitcoin in China completely is if you shut down the internet. So the regulators are really focused on the points where bitcoin hits fiat currency. The current regulation that's being talked about is banning bitcoin exchanges, which would cut out a lot of the trade flows we're seeing in China right now and the exchanges around bitcoin. So we'll likely see them focused around those activities where there is an entity or person or some kind of connection to the traditional financial system that they can control.feedback

Jamie Dimon - JPMorgan Chase & Co.

It is worse than tulip bulbs. Don't ask me to short it. It could be at $20,000 before this happens, but it will eventually blow up. Honestly, I am just shocked that anyone can't see it for what it is.feedback

Bai Dong

We have coal mines. Now we have a Bitcoin mine. They are both mines. What's their relationship?feedback

Bai Xiaotu

Look around, there are abandoned factories on both sides of our farm. Many factories are not doing that great.feedback

Chamath Palihapitiya

There is just this massive trade right now between the disruptors and the disrupted. Technology companies are fundamentally dynamic organisms … [There are] so many assets that are fundamentally impaired due to technology.feedback

Arthur Hayes

I would assume that if China shuts down trading on continuous order books of the large exchanges, the price would drop below US$4,000, or the price of the U.S. dollar price of bitcoin would catch up to where it's trading equivalently in China.feedback

Eric Zhao

Exchanges are not what give value to blockchain assets like bitcoin. It is the intrinsic technology and numerous applications who play decisive roles. From an investment aspect, while short-term speculators might find it harder to trade, long term investors are not that affected. Just inconvenience for the most part.feedback

Charles Hayter

The Chinese market has been perhaps the most virulently exuberant in terms of its irrational excesses and across the world regulators are looking to gradually turn up the regulatory heat on this ICO phenomenon. Nothing is ever certain. With China nothing is ever certain and a lot is left to be desired in terms of translation and interpretation. Rumors are that the Chinese are looking to ban bitcoin again and ring-fence their fiat yuan from the crypto world. The fears of capital outflows as well as money laundering are causing the Chinese state to ratchet the rhetoric.feedback

Charles Hayter

The recent moves against ICOs rocked the market but have left it relatively unscathed. Examples will doubtless be made – the question is who and when. The crypto markets realized earlier in the year that China isn't that important as it only accounts for less than 20 percent of volumes – Japan, the US and Korea to an extent are more than enough to sustain healthy volumes. Uncertainty for the time being in China whilst for the rest of the world its business as usual.feedback

Bobby Lee - BTC China

We're still awaiting formal notification from regulators. It's obviously a sensitive time period.feedback

Howard Marks - Oaktree Capital Group

There has been particularly spirited response to my comments on digital currencies. I think I understand what a digital currency is, how bitcoin works, and some of the arguments for it. But I still don't feel like putting my money into it, because I consider it a speculative bubble.feedback

Howard Marks - Oaktree Capital Group

So even if digital currencies are here to stay, who knows which one will turn out to be the winner? Hundreds of e-commerce start-ups appreciated rapidly in the tech bubble based on the premise that 'the Internet will change the world.' It did, but most of the companies ended up worthless.feedback

Laura Morrison - CBOE Holdings

The progress seems slow, there is no doubt about it, but the importance of proper regulation will help to pave this road.feedback

Diego Guiterrez

The ones at risk are the ones still trying to recover their investment because they will be four times less productive.feedback

Diego Guiterrez

It's clearly the next generation of miners. The other [mining chip makers] will surely follow and create their own 7 nm chips if they are not already doing it. As [chip fabricators] get the new technology, everybody can access it.feedback

Howard Marks - Oaktree Capital Group

In my view, digital currencies are nothing but an unfounded fad (or perhaps even a pyramid scheme), based on a willingness to ascribe value to something that has little or none beyond what people will pay for it.feedback

Warren Buffett - Berkshire Hathaway

Stay away from it. It's a mirage basically. It's a method of transmitting money. It's a very effective way of transmitting money and you can do it anonymously and all that. A check is a way of transmitting money too. Are checks worth a whole lot of money? Just because they can transmit money? I hope bitcoin becomes a better way to do it. But you can replicate it a bunch of different ways. The idea that it [bitcoin] has some huge intrinsic value is just a joke in my view.feedback

Robert Shiller

It seems to me that the enthusiasm for bitcoin is a little bit out of proportion to its immediate application. I don't know, maybe it's possible that you can still ride this bubble on bitcoin. But I keep thinking there'll be other currencies, other ideas [that] will come up and will eclipse this one. So it's risky.feedback

Robert Shiller

Then, we have a new form of money that ... sounds extremely revolutionary and involves a very clever use of cryptography that you can spend all afternoon trying to figure out. So the story has inspired young people and active people, and that's what's driving the market. It's not fundamentals. It's not like this is a fundamentally important thing, this bitcoin.feedback

Robert Shiller

I'm not as negative as it may seem, but I think that the thing that's driving bitcoin at the moment, like other examples of bubbles, is a story. And it's the quality of the story that's attracting all this interest, and it's not necessarily sustainable.feedback

Doug Barrowman

This a great opportunity for the crypto-currency community to offload some of its significant gains, especially the early adopters, and actually deploy them in hard-core assets which I'm building.feedback

Michelle Mone

Being a designer for 21 years, it's a real passion of mine as the design side, and it's great to be partnering up together as all to launch this. And this is the first major global development where you can purchase in bitcoin. Previously there's been an apartment here and there's been a house here and there, but never a £250 million development, so it's really exciting to be involved in.feedback

Doug Barrowman

And that finds favor with how the crypto world operates, they like to be rewarded discounts, on ICOs (initial coin offerings), to allow them to buy into things. And I just think it's quite groundbreaking what we're doing.feedback

Doug Barrowman

This is a project I have worked very hard on for some time and the Dubai development is the pinnacle of design, architecture and commerciality. That said, I didn't feel this was enough. I wanted to offer the property, tech and blockchain community a unique and exclusive opportunity by merging the property and tech sectors together in a true first for the industry.feedback

Stephen Pair - BitPay

Bitcoin payments offer a significant leap forward for high-value international payments. These property purchases can now happen in minutes from anywhere in the world with the speed of sending an email. We are pleased to partner with Lady Michelle Mone OBE, Doug Barrowman, and the Knox Group of companies on this exciting opportunity for Bitcoin and for property payments.feedback

Charles Hayter

The SEC rumblings are perhaps fortuitous too as Paris Hilton seems to toe into ICO territory.feedback

Charles Hayter

The price action has certainly been led by this Chinese salvo - but healthy profits and moving traders to take gains off the table too until the panic calms.feedback

Charles Hayter

The wheat will be sorted from the chaff and a new gold standard of ICOs can be striven for.feedback

Fran Strajnar

This type of news is 'universally' negative sentiment, within the crypto space, so we are not surprised to see a dip on all assets today. We do not see this to be a lasting issue.feedback

Fran Strajnar

There is likely some profit taking since reaching almost $5,000 on bitcoin, but the amount of fresh capital that continues to pour in suggests this is not the start of a trend reversal.feedback

Charles Hayter

A rising tide lifts all boats but the opposite is also true - with generally bad news reverberating across the ecosystem all cryptos have turned red together.feedback

Chris Burniske

If people think this is the 'big bubble,' then they don't have an appreciation for how big the idea of cryptoassets really is.feedback

Alex Batlin - BNY Mellon

Blockchain is a really good, resilient system. The interesting thing about bitcoin is since its inception, no one's cracked it. Yet it's completely in the open.feedback

Tyson Cross

Regulators have forced exchanges, like Coinbase, to place tight restrictions and limits on users due to anti-money laundering concerns. Coinbase, and other exchanges, now require an in-depth verification process to withdraw money.feedback

Jeff Gitlen

In 2017, virtual currency transactions account for 0.0019 percent of the total complaints received by the CFPB. The CFPB is on pace to receive 425 complaints in 2017, up 5,971 percent from the seven complaints received in 2016.feedback

Mateo Patino

They started to ask questions about why I was drawing so much power from my house. I actually turned off all my bitcoin miners, and I moved them to another secure location.feedback

Randy Brito

People who mine bitcoin or crypto with mining rigs, they're usually doing it underground.feedback

Joseph Lubin - Bitcoin

Yes, they're volatile. But they represent real life-saving value to many people in many countries around the world.feedback

Mateo Patino

Mining bitcoin became something out of a spy movie, because miners were getting arrested on false charges. Many bitcoin miners are being prosecuted. Many, they're scared, they're paranoid.feedback

Randy Brito

People are barely making a living with their jobs there. Even if they're a professional, they are not able to work. So people are finding that mining is a way to make a predictable income for their families.feedback

Rickey Gevers

Bitcoin basically introduced a situation where we could bypass the money mules. In the beginning [bitcoin] looks very anonymous, and in the end it doesn't look very anonymous.feedback

Michael Bedford Taylor

This will invigorate the hardware field. We are about to see the emergence of all kinds of ASICs clouds, and the bitcoin hardware community has demonstrated that under the right conditions this can happen rapidly as a grassroots effort.feedback

Jack Liao

He wants to control the code, he wants to control the environment. Then he can design the entire bitcoin ecosystem.feedback

Michael Bedford Taylor

The companies that excelled in bitcoin mining have developed the skills to survive in an ultra-competitive, highly commoditized industry; have superior system-level design expertise and know how to keep data center costs down. The victors in the bitcoin [chip] design competition handily defeated US-based efforts.feedback

Jihan Wu

The core developers don't own bitcoin as a whole. Maybe they own the bitcoin-core software project, but bitcoin is not software, it is a kind of social agreement that is implemented by software. And if people do not agree with each other, a fork will be inevitable. It is only a matter of time.feedback

Thomas Lee

No doubt, this will lead to an increase in overall transaction volumes for bitcoin.feedback

Thomas Lee

We see bitcoin as gaining from institutional sponsorship, improving transaction platforms and ultimately, greater public adoption.feedback

Aurélien Menant

So far in both Japan and China, the 'Know Your Customer' and anti-money laundering processes of exchanges have become stricter, but this has not deterred trading activity as Japan and China remain the largest markets for cryptocurrency trading globally.feedback

Omar Abdelrasoul

We're trying to get people used to the idea of bitcoin, to ready the market so that in a couple of years we will reach a greater number of users. But for now we are trying to let people know what cryptocurrency is.feedback

Udi Mokady

The enterprises that we see and work with are actually trying to be smarter than [those who buy bitcoin for ransom] and learn from other companies' mistakes and put in the means to prevent such attacks from really taking them down.feedback

Udi Mokady

They will actually have to disclose when they are breached and we think that will expedite the education process of cyberattacks.feedback

Todd Gordon

The three major peaks in gold were associated with bitcoin at $1,222, in June at $2,969, [and more recently at] $4,374. So as gold has triple topped at around $1,300, bitcoin is making new highs.feedback

Todd Gordon

The two have run up fairly well here together in August.feedback

Brian Samson

It gives control to people instead of a government, and I like that. And its value is going up. I like that, too.feedback

Dennis Gartman

We'll walk in one day and this will all have ended. And it will end very badly.feedback

Dennis Gartman

What bothers me is that something that can move 5, 10, 15, 18 percent in the course of the day for what's supposed to be a pricing mechanism. How can you buy a house? How can you buy a car? How can you buy Starbucks with bitcoin when the price is going to fluctuate as [dramatically] as it has?feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

People should understand they're not dealing with the NYSE right now. There's no regulation, there's no face that you can attach to these exchanges.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

I expect that within a couple of years we will have between 50 and 100 million cryptocurrency users -- up from approximately ~10 million today. We only have 0.15% market penetration right now -- if that goes to 2% or 3% we will get to the $50,000 price target that I set at the beginning of July.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

What's happening is the floodgates are opening. I believe there are hedge funds and very deep-pocketed individuals going into this now, really hundreds of millions of dollars.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

You can't look at this as a normal situation. We're in an industry that will probably go from $140 billion to $2 trillion and the bitcoin price will probably move with that.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

Any way that I look at these numbers, my forecasts are looking conservative. It looks to me as though we are at the same point in the adoption curve as we were in 1995 when we went from one million internet users to ten million. The following year the Netscape browser came online and we went from 10 million users to hundreds of millions of users overnight.feedback

Charles Hayter

Segwit2X has undoubtedly been the initial catalyst for this rally removing the uncertainty of how bitcoin is meant to scale.feedback

Charles Hayter

Scaling has been the major catalyst for the price rally. The scaling debate has certainly been holding the Bitcoin price back.feedback

Charles Hayter

There is a history of animosity between Bitcoin factions with vested interests, and these tensions could flare up again.feedback

Hadley Stern

I do think [cryptocurrencies] will make things, whether it's bitcoin or something else, faster and cheaper and create new products and services that we can't even imagine.feedback

Ari Paul

Every day sees new buyers entering the market, and as the price rises, owners of Bitcoin only become more bullish. This trend may continue until there's an exogenous shock to entice new sellers.feedback

Chris Burniske

With SegWit locked in, and an effective split between two camps with differing visions for the asset (BTC and BCH), it is now experiencing a relief rally. A greater number of entities, including institutions, are waking up to bitcoin's merits as a currency that is uncorrelated to the traditional capital markets.feedback

Mark Forster

I urge anyone who is cold called and offered investment opportunities to simply put the phone down. A legitimate company will never cold call you and put you in a position where you need to make an investment on the spot.feedback

Mark Forster

Investment fraudsters are still targeting people throughout the country and they employ aggressive sales tactics which are often used to pressurise unsuspecting victims into parting with large sums of money. These people often base themselves in the City as they believe having an address in a prestigious financial district will help to legitimise their fraud.feedback

Howard Marks - Oaktree Capital Group

I don't understand what's behind bitcoin. For me, there is only one kind of investing: When you look at something, you don't think 'is it going up or down tomorrow?' ... you say 'what is the intrinsic value?' and then you say 'can I buy it for less?'. There is no intrinsic value in Bitcoin. Maybe I'm just too old and too much of dinosaur to understand Bitcoin.feedback

Howard Marks - Oaktree Capital Group

It's not a medium of exchange, it's a medium of trading, so I can't see any intrinsic value. I don't understand what's behind Bitcoin.feedback

Thomas Lee

I think bitcoin is an underowned asset with potential for huge institutional sponsorship coming. It has a lot of characteristics that are very similar to gold that I think will make it ultimately attractive as an alternate currency. It's a good store of value.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

It would not shock me to see cryptocurrencies go to 4 per cent of global investment assets. Before anyone laughs at me for suggesting that something like that could happen – just look at what happened [in bitcoin] in the last five years. People who put in $10,000 made $1 million already. It happened already and I think it will happen one more time. We are in the 15th minute of a 90-minute soccer game – and it could go to overtime.feedback

Rob Moffat - Balderton Capital

It's just so easy to raise money on an ICO right now, it just feels like there's a gold rush going on there. Some of the new currencies – beyond bitcoin and Ethereum – could crash to zero.feedback

Rob Moffat - Balderton Capital

It's just created new value out of nowhere. There's no fundamentals behind any of this – it's all based on public perception, so you can start to see some really strange phenomena.feedback

Thomas Lee

Yes, because there're catalysts. Institutions have to directly buy the coin today through a broker but both the CBOE and CFTC have opened options and futures trading, so I think it's going to grow in holdings.feedback

Brian Stutland

When you look at gold over the past couple of months, [it has] tracked very well [relative] to the cryptocurrency. Bitcoin, right now, is the most popular [cryptocurrency] and it is the most valuable one. But I don't see it as a store of value, because any [other cryptocurrency platform] could come out with a slightly better technology and completely replace bitcoin.feedback

Fran Strajnar

As we now have bitcoin cash, there is a much lower risk of future forks, as future arguments will default to 'just use bitcoin cash.feedback

Fran Strajnar

Bitcoin's SegWit means the many well-financed companies researching Lightning solutions can start to test on the main network.feedback

Aurélien Menant

The Lightning Network is a game-changing innovation, which utilizes smart contract technologies to enable instant micropayments using cryptocurrencies such as bitcoin.feedback

Aurélien Menant

Particularly with regards to micropayment transactions that may be useful for emerging markets with low-value local currencies. It can also be implemented to facilitate machine to machine payments, using its smart contract framework, so that firms running various automated processes can benefit from direct payment relationships between its software and that of its clients or suppliers.feedback

Hadley Stern

This is an experiment in the spirit of learning what these crypto assets are like and how our customers may want to interact with them.feedback

Thomas Lee

Our initial bitcoin report viewed bitcoin as a 'store of value' and over time would be seen as an alternative to gold.feedback

Charles Hayter

Segwit activates this afternoon and there is a lot of hope that the network will unclog with lower transaction fees becoming the new normal. The SegWit activation opens up projects that bring some capability to the bitcoin network. Instead of bitcoin being held back by infighting, it is now blue skies of opportunity in what can be built.feedback

Aurélien Menant

Given the technology's move towards scalability, more institutional investors are now considering to allocate funds to bitcoin, which may be exciting the market.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

That's what supports the cryptocurrency right now, confidence. If there's something that shakes people's confidence in crypto then they will sell off. The further we get into this game the less likely you will get something like that.feedback

David McCarthy - HSBC

You've used the progeny of this one coin in every transaction you've done in your life, whether it's a bitcoin, a dollar or a euro.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

I think investors should take a shot on this and hold for a few years. If you lose a few bucks, at least you took a shot. In life, you miss every shot that you do not take. It will probably be more upsetting to watch it from the sidelines go up another 1,000 percent.feedback

Jeremy Gardner

We didn't have the money for all the salaries to pay everyone to go live on their own so it was much cheaper to keep everyone in one place, eradicate housing costs and still be in San Francisco.feedback

Charles Hayter

Some exchanges are realising that they are missing out on trading fees and also seeing an exodus of clients to platforms that do support bitcoin cash. The fervour and price rises within the first few hours can be blamed on slow supply reaching markets and excessive initial exuberant demand. The ability to short the market (bet on the price falling) should bring about more efficiencies as reality bites into the price.feedback

Aurélien Menant

If most miners decide that for economic reasons they prefer to mine larger blocks and commit more hashing power to Bcash, then it's likely more development work and user adoption would follow, and those conducting business with bitcoin may decide to adopt Bcash instead. Yet for this to happen Bcash would need to prove that its technology can match the security features and reliability of bitcoin's software.feedback

Tom Robinson

We're following the movement of funds being sent out of the WannaCry wallets. We believe some of these funds are being converted into Monero, a privacy-focused cryptocurrency. We continue to work with law enforcement to support their efforts in tracing ownership of these funds.feedback

Fran Strajnar

There's no infrastructure available out of the box, to support BCC [Bitcoin Cash]. The network needs further support and infrastructure needs to be as easy as bitcoin; otherwise it's over for BCC.feedback

Marcin Kleczynski - Malwarebytes

You look at the bitcoin addresses, they're not well-funded. You see a couple of thousand dollars at best. So how does the criminal step up his or her game?feedback

Ed Tilly

CBOE is not only a home to options, derivatives and the VIX but also ETF innovations and foreign exchange. This makes us the natural choice for the development and trading of bitcoin futures. We very much look forward to responding to the growing interest in cryptocurrencies through the creation of bitcoin futures traded on a regulated derivatives exchange, with the many expected benefits that this brings, including transparency, price discovery, deep liquidity and centralized clearing.feedback

Iqbal Gandham - eToro

It's been a slow start for Bitcoin Cash. The delay ... could be a result of a lack of miner support for the new crypto-currency.feedback

Roger Ver

The fact graphics card manufacturers are making special cards, cryptocurrency mining cards, I think it's a pretty big turning point for the crypto[currency world] in general. The demand is just incredible.feedback

Jihan Wu

I read some blogs about bitcoin and at that time I felt very excited and saw the potential.feedback

Nchinda Nchinda

Instead of mining hardware, you should have just bought bitcoin. If we just used that $9K and bought bitcoin, we would have had more.feedback

James Smith

We are incredibly optimistic about Bitfury's growth both today and in the years to come because we know that our expertise, hard work and determination are second to none.feedback

Jonathan Mohan - Bitcoin

I wouldn't go about doing that without partners. It used to be something that non-specialized hardware could do and non-specialized individuals could do. If you're looking for exposure into bitcoin, it's more cost effective to buy.feedback

Charles Hayter

When the fork occurs it can be expected that the price of bitcoin will drop by the price of Bitcoin Cash, however these are crypto markets and nothing is ever certain.feedback

Dominic Williams - Bitcoin

That may not impact the bitcoin market (capitalization) very much, but if it looks like Bitcoin Cash is gaining momentum and people want it, we could see some major volatility and swings between the two versions of the currency.feedback

Anatoliy Knyazev

(This is) decentralized governance in action. Anyone can try to lead and the market will figure it out.feedback

Greg Dwyer

We do not want to support any behaviour whereby anyone can potentially split the bitcoin blockchain and effectively create free money out of nothing.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

There is no telephone support. You must go to the FAQs section and spend a long time looking for the answer to whatever question you may have – and then you may not be happy with the answer. Your only other option is to send an email to customer support which could take anywhere from one-to-seven days to get a reply. I watched from the sidelines for a few years and it felt recently as if the train is leaving the station. I think we are still in the first quarter of a four quarter game and that even though I missed out on significant gains (2014 - 2016), it is not too late to get in.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

I have little doubt that 1% of the money in cash, bonds, stocks and gold will end up in cryptocurrencies.feedback

Ronnie Moas - Standpoint Research

In my view, 10-15 years from now, the charts on a few of the top twenty names will look like the Amazon, Apple, Tesla, Facebook, Netflix and Google charts look today.feedback

Charles Hayter

The creation of Bitcoin Cash is certainly a pivotal moment for Bitcoin and its community. The inception of Bitcoin Cash may prove to be exactly what Bitcoin needs.feedback

Iqbal Gandham - eToro

Demand for Bitcoin has been so high in recent months, that those creating the cryptocurrency can't keep up, slowing transactions.feedback

Fran Strajnar

Most will likely hold as it's free, just to see what happens or for hedging. However a majority of everyday users, traders and investors are vocal about market dumping their free tokens as soon as they can. If there's any legs at all to Bitcoin Cash or if the miners backing it deploy large scale and sustained attacks on bitcoin, then Bitcoin Cash may survive its initial violent birth.feedback

Matthew Roszak - Bitcoin

This entire process will be a key test for bitcoin in its evolution beyond a store of value and show its potential to grow into something much greater.feedback

Iqbal Gandham - eToro

For bitcoin to continue to scale and have the potential to become a globally used currency, this slowdown in transactions has to be addressed.feedback

Charles Hayter

This means that the two sides that were once debating within Bitcoin, can instead apply their different views of what the cryptocurrency should be in two different blockchains.feedback

Jeff Garzik

This is somewhat like a stock split. You go to sleep with 100 bitcoins and wake up in the morning with 100 bitcoins plus 100 'Bitcoin Cash', a new token.feedback

Elvira Nabiullina

We don't consider that bitcoin can be considered as a virtual currency.feedback

Jerry Brito

Anybody who thought about this for a second understood that law enforcement was working on a case against BTC-e. The question was just whether the government would catch them.feedback

Emin Gün Sirer

Exchanges will go one of two ways. Either they will clean their act, by first shopping for the most lenient jurisdictions and complying with relevant KYC/AML laws, or they'll go 'fully underground,' and operate with no rules, behind Tor and other anonymous communication technologies. The most colorful drama ahead will involve exchanges, such as Bitfinex, that operate in the gray zone, where they seem to neither comply with relevant laws nor go fully underground.feedback

Roger Ver

I actually think it would be a good thing if there is a split.feedback

Howard Marks - Oaktree Capital Group

In my view, digital currencies are nothing but an unfounded fad (or perhaps even a pyramid scheme), based on a willingness to ascribe value to something that has little or none beyond what people will pay for it. I'd guess these things (digital currencies) have arisen from the intersection of (a) doubts about financial security – including the value of national currencies – that grew out of the financial crisis an (b) the comfort felt by millennials regarding all things virtual. But they're not real. Some people are eager to speculate on digital currency for profit.feedback

Alex Sunnarborg - CoinDesk

I believe the market is currently somewhat torn between the optimism around BIP 91 locking in, which could lead to SegWit activating if all goes smoothly, and the fear of the second half of SegWit2x proposal, the 2MB block size hard fork, still being contested. Big names like ViaBTC, Houbi, Bithumb, and potentially Roger Ver and others supporting Bitcoin Cash either from August 1 or if Segwit2x fails to activate has made the future thought of two blockchains more of a real fear for many in the community.feedback

Francisco Blanch - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Most regulated financial institutions allow their clients to borrow against financial or physical assets, but we are not aware of any major institution that takes cryptocurrency as collateral at the moment. Thus, in our view, a key step for bitcoin would be for it to become pledgeable collateral.feedback

Francisco Blanch - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies score well on some, and not so well on others.feedback

Francisco Blanch - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

The lack of a centralized decision-making process or authority creates risks such as a currency split.feedback

Francisco Blanch - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

Bitcoin's volatility is very high compared to the euro, the yen or even gold. But it fell twice last year below the volatility of silver, the world's currency for 400 years.feedback

Francisco Blanch - Bank of America Merrill Lynch

There is no certainty that that [similarity to gold] will continue and, most certainly, no way to predict it. In our view, cryptocurrency returns will mostly depend on the faith placed by individuals, corporations, and financial institutions on this emerging technology.feedback

James Hilliard

This is where mining centralization makes things easier, because I can just message everybody on WeChat and help them if needed.feedback

Josh Mahony

Recent fears over Bitcoin appear to have been brushed aside, with the cryptocurrency rallying to within 2% of the previous all-time high despite the civil war that could see Bitcoin split into two entities in less than two weeks. The US decision to close a host of dark web marketplaces removes one source of demand, but for now as long as Chinese speculators remain able to use the cryptocurrency to move assets out of the country, the bulls remain in charge.feedback

Miguel Vias

What we have seen is an embracing of digital assets broadly by really established institutions. When you have folks like the [Bank of England], which did a [proof of concept] with us, as well as the Bank of Japan coming out and saying, we are considering this as legal tender at some point – when you see those developments, you can't help but feel that we are on the right path, that interest is going to continue to grow.feedback

Miguel Vias

With respect to XRP, we are incredibly focused on international payments, I think we are probably the only digital asset that has a clear use case with respect to what we are trying to do with the asset. With respect to growth and outreach, we will continue to partner with digital asset exchanges for listings and mostly importantly ... it is really all about payments and in this quarter, you will see some very interesting developments with respect to our partnership in payments, with respect to XRP in particular.feedback

Rob Viglione - ZenCash

BIP 91 unleashes the next wave of innovation because it has been a little bit stagnant of late for bitcoin.feedback

Charles Hayter

Bitcoin now has a clear run to add features that allow for faster transactions with lower costs.feedback

Ari Paul

Bitcoin is rallying largely because the probability of Segregated Witness being activated is increasing as more miners signal that they will activate it.feedback

Brian Kelly

The institutional interest in this space has picked up again, not that it really died off too much. Institutions are looking to get back in in a meaningful way.feedback

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